There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Episodes



Aug 19, 2026
Aug 19, 2026
50 min
Ep 202 – Rewind - Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health
Following Episode 200, The following 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years. .
We talk about our origin stories on this episode, and Katie has a heartfelt conversation with our friend, Max Darwin, about creating a magic show, hard work, empathy, and mental health.
Max Darwin is an actor, public speaker, and magician who might be best known by his stage persona, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Aug 19, 2026
50 min



Aug 12, 2026
Aug 12, 2026
38 min
Ep 201 – Rewind Ep. 1 Gail Boyd: Follow Your Bliss
Following Episode 200, our next 9 episodes will be replays of episodes that had points or quotes that stuck with the pod squad over the last nearly 4 years. If you missed the big news in episode 200, Katie, Danielle, Bryan, and Kevin are taking a step back and will not be a regular part of the podcast as it moves forward.
It’s finally here, our first episode! On this episode we learn which of our hosts are rule-followers and who are willing to bend the rules, and Bryan interviews Gail Boyd. Gail Boyd is President of Gail Boyd Artist Management (https://gailboyd.com/), Co-founder of arts consulting company Vanguard Arts (https://vanguard-arts.com/), and more. Learn how one concert changed her life and how she went from lawyer to artist manager.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Aug 12, 2026
38 min



Aug 5, 2026
Ep. 200 So Long to Season One
Aug 5, 2026
Aug 5, 2026
1 hr 3 min
Ep. 200 So Long to Season OneThis week the Quad Producers gather to host and celebrate episode 200! We play games, laugh, share our favorite advice and moments from the show, and reflect on what this journey has meant to us. We also share some major podcast updates - and be sure to listen all the way to the end!
Your hosts and producers are Bryan Zellmer, Josh Benson, Kevin Maynard, Katie Trzaska-Miller, and Danielle Van Hook.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Aug 5, 2026
1 hr 3 min



Jul 29, 2026
Ep. 199 Ryan VanDenBoom: Mentorship Is the Key
Jul 29, 2026
Jul 29, 2026
59 min
Ep. 199 Ryan VanDenBoom: Mentorship Is the KeyThis week Broadway veteran Ryan VanDenBoom shares his professional journey with Katie, including behind-the-scenes stories of his time with Annie, Something Rotten, Hamilton, and MJ the Musical. Katie and Ryan talk about the complexities of a show like MJ the Musical, Ryan’s artistic relationship with Broadway choreographer and director Andy Blankenbuehler, and how he’s finding a new creative and career path on Broadway.
Ryan VanDenBoom’s Broadway credits include the original casts of Something Rotten, Bandstand, and MJ the Musical; he most recently was the Associate Movement Consultant on the off-Broadway production of Marcel on the Train with Ethan Slater. Ryan can be seen in the TV show Fosse/Verdon and movie Kiss of the Spider Woman, and is one of the co-founders of the Spark Artistic Mentorship Program (www.sparkartisticmentorship.org).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Jul 29, 2026
59 min



Jul 22, 2026
Jul 22, 2026
49 min
Ep 198 Emma Orme – Under the Radar – Nobody Knows What They Are Doing, So Ask Questions.
This week Kevin and Josh continue with the Under the Radar Series by sitting down with Emma Orme, Producer of Reconstructing by The Team and Friday Night Rat Catchers by Lisa Fagan and Lena Engelstein; both a part of the 2026 Under the Radar Festival. In this episode we discuss the role of producer specific to those productions for UTR.
Emma Orme is an Obie award-winning creative producer who works in close partnership with experimental artists like Lisa Fagan & Lena Engelstein (the “High Weird” - Helen Shaw) and nicHi douglas, and companies like Fake Friends and CHILD. She is currently the Producing Director of the internationally renowned theater collective the TEAM, working in close partnership with Artistic Director Rachel Chavkin and artists such as Libby King, Josiah Davis, Eric Berryman, Zhailon Levingston, James Monaco, Jillian Walker, and more.
To learn more about Under the Radar Festival go to their website here. https://utrfest.org
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Jul 22, 2026
49 min



Jul 15, 2026
Jul 15, 2026
51 min
Ep. 197 Olivia Aston Bosworth: Reveling in the Magic
Katie sits down this week with Olivia Aston Bosworth of TYA/USA and the Alliance Theatre in Atlanta, GA. Katie checks in with Olivia on the most recent TYA/USA Annual Festival and Conference, learns about the fantastic programming at the Alliance Theatre, and discusses the breadth of opportunity for creatives and audiences in the Theater for Young Audiences world. Oliva Aston Bosworth is president of the board for TYA/USA and the Dan Reardon Director or Youth and Families at the Alliance Theatre in Atlanta, GA. Learn more at https://www.tyausa.org/ and https://www.alliancetheatre.org/.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Jul 15, 2026
51 min



Jul 8, 2026
Ep. 196 AI: A Tool or the End of the Artist
Jul 8, 2026
Jul 8, 2026
25 min
Ep. 196 AI: A Tool or the End of the Artist
Josh, Katie, and Danielle take some time to discuss Real world use of AI as an administrative tool. We also discuss and discover ways that we have been using AI without advertently intending to. We remain hopeful that it remains a tool, but also express a fair amount of skepticism of what capitalism will do with it. Share your thoughts with our on our socials.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Jul 8, 2026
25 min



Jul 1, 2026
Jul 1, 2026
1 hr 14 min
Ep. 195 Joshua Holden: Puppets and Whoopi GoldbergThe podcast hosts its first puppeteer this week as Joshua Holden joins Katie for a thoroughly delightful conversation! They explore what it takes to be a puppeteer, how to make the most of a conference showcase as an artist, and discuss Josh’s experiences on Broadway and Sesame Street. Yes, Sesame Street!Joshua Holden is a New York City-based puppeteer and touring artist (www.wowjoshuaholden.com).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Jul 1, 2026
1 hr 14 min

There's No Business Like...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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