There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Episodes



Wednesday Mar 22, 2023
Ep. 23 Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium: The Future is Bright!
Wednesday Mar 22, 2023
Wednesday Mar 22, 2023
Ep. 23 EALS: The Future is Bright!
We are joined by the student leaders of the Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium (EALS), Morgan Fuller, Faith Smith, and Lisette DuFore. Katie jumped at the opportunity to chat with the future leaders in our industry to hear what is important to them as they enter the field. Our hosts share what they thought they would be doing when they were still in college, and share stories of the big actions they are taking in their organizations.
American University (https://www.american.edu/) hosts the annual Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium (https://www.ealsatau.org/) which is student led. Morgan Fuller (Executive Director), Faith Smith (Director of Finance), and Lisette DuFore (Marketing and Communications Coordinator) are part of the 2022-2023 Leadership.
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Wednesday Mar 15, 2023
Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success
Wednesday Mar 15, 2023
Wednesday Mar 15, 2023
Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success
On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a story about a singer at Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” Speech, that singer was Mahalia Jackson.
Dominic Moore-Dunson (https://www.dommooredun.com/) is a dancer, choreographer, podcaster, and all-around creative entrepreneur. Dominic’s podcast inCOPnegro can be found here: https://www.incopnegro.com/
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Wednesday Mar 08, 2023
Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship
Wednesday Mar 08, 2023
Wednesday Mar 08, 2023
Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship
On this episode, our hosts recall thing that drew them into booths at conferences, and Bryan sits down to talk business with Stephen Sunderlin. Stephen shares his story of moving to NYC and eventually becoming the Artistic Director at Vital Theatre Company. Stephen shares the benefits of connections, the details of producing new works, the importance of good marketing materials, and the value of being open to working every experience in theatre.
Stephen Sunderlin is the Producing Artistic Director of Vital Theatre Company (https://www.vitaltheatre.org/) bringing to life productions like Pinkalicious The Musical, Fancy Nancy, and more!
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Wednesday Mar 01, 2023
Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.
Wednesday Mar 01, 2023
Wednesday Mar 01, 2023
Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.
This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next.
Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together.
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*warning - there is some explicit language in this episode.



Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big
Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big
This week's episode is a special one! It is the first of two that highlights the individuals that introduced our hosts. Our hosts talk about getting that phone call, and then Bryan, Danielle, and Kevin share their conversation with Christine Cox. Christine shares her journey from playing a Princess to owning her own agency and gives incredible insight on the risk vs. Reward of artist acquisitions and contract types.
Christine Cox is the Owner and Founder of C Squared Entertainment (https://www.csquaredentertainment.com/) and the Executive Producer of the Off Broadway Family-Friendly magic show, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/). Christine Cox along with Michael Mushalla created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together.
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Wednesday Feb 15, 2023
Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building
Wednesday Feb 15, 2023
Wednesday Feb 15, 2023
Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building
Our hosts talk about their favorite experience on stage. Katie chats with Christi Dortch about her career journey, when to listen to what your community is ready for and when to push them. Katie and Christi also discuss the relearning of in person communication coming out of the pandemic zoom meeting norm. The interview covers 3 things that you can use to shape your strategic plan and Christi discusses the function of state consortiums.
Christi Dortch is a consultant in the nonprofit sector focusing on long term strategy. Christi is also the Executive Director of Tennessee Presenters.(https://www.tnpresenters.org)
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Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly?
Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly?
Our hosts talk about the instruments they played when they were younger, and the importance of arts education. Bryan takes an opportunity to chat with Marian Liebowitz about her teaching background and the importance of the business side of our industry, as well as her unique approach to curating artists.
Marian Liebowitz is the owner of Marian Liebowitz Artist Management (https://www.marianliebowitz.com/) as well as a former performer and professor.
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Wednesday Feb 01, 2023
Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing
Wednesday Feb 01, 2023
Wednesday Feb 01, 2023
Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing
Josh Holliday joins our host, Katie, to demystify Arts Marketing by giving real examples of how to create a marketing plan, how PR differs from marketing, and more. Our hosts talk about their favorite marketing campaigns, and revel in the masterclass that Josh Holliday presented in this short interview.
Josh Holliday has a career in Arts Marketing, founded Fresh Coast Perspective (https://www.freshcoastperspective.com/), and is currently the Director of Communications at the Tennessee Performing Arts Center (https://www.tpac.org/).
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The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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