There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Episodes



Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Ep. 139: Broadway’s Biggest Night – Voting for the Tonys
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Ep. 139: Broadway’s Biggest Night – Voting for the TonysThe lights are bright on Broadway as Katie and Josh learn all about the Tony Awards from Broadway producer Rashad Chambers and the Wharton Center’s Eric Olmscheid, who both serve as Tonys voters. We discuss seeing 42 shows in a season, the voting process, Tonys marketing and press, the role the Tonys play in the larger theater industry landscape, and more. We even make some 2025 awards predictions!Rashad V. Chambers is a Tony Award-winning Broadway and film producer, currently nominated for the show Purpose (https://www.esquireentertainment.com/). Eric Olmscheid is the Executive Director of the Wharton Center for Performing Arts in East Lansing, MI (https://www.whartoncenter.com/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 28, 2025
Ep. 138 Christopher Kendrick-Castanho: Full Circle Moment
Wednesday May 28, 2025
Wednesday May 28, 2025
Ep. 138 Christopher Kendrick-Castanho: Full Circle Moment
We’re headed to Broadway this week as Danielle and Bryan talk about the Broadway League’s 2025 Spring Road Conference and arts marketing with guest Christopher Kendrick-Castanho. Christopher shares about social media and influencer marketing, some of the rising challenges in the Broadway touring industry, and turns the tables on Danielle and hosts his own game!Christopher Kendrick-Castanho is a Marketing Manager for The Bushnell in Hartford, CT (https://bushnell.org/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 21, 2025
Ep. 137 The Pod Goes “Wildcard”
Wednesday May 21, 2025
Wednesday May 21, 2025
Ep. 137 The Pod Goes “Wildcard”
It’s a “choose your own adventure” discussion as Katie borrows this week’s format (with tweaks) from the NPR podcast “Wildcard” and our hosts select their questions from a deck of notecards. We reflect on our work, our current challenges, what’s bringing us joy...and the time machine is back! Share your own answers with us via social media or email us a voice note via our website.Thanks to Wildcard with Rachel Martin for the inspiration and we hope you check it out: https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510379/wild-card-with-rachel-martin
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 14, 2025
Ep. 136 State of the Arts: Montana Edition!
Wednesday May 14, 2025
Wednesday May 14, 2025
Ep. 136 State of the Arts: Montana Edition!
This week, Katie sits down with the head of a presenters consortium, the head of a state arts council, and the head of a performing arts center, all from the State of Montana, in our first ever episode focused on one singular state. They discuss how presenting in Montana is different, funding concerns, the Yellowstone Effect, and more.
Emily Wolfram is the Executive Director of the Montana Performing Arts Consortium (https://www.mtperformingarts.org/)
Krys Holmes is the Executive Director of the Montana Arts Council (https://art.mt.gov/)
Benji Cosgrove is the Executive Director of The Myrna Loy (https://themyrnaloy.com/)
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 07, 2025
Ep. 135 Arts Data Redefined- The Conversation
Wednesday May 07, 2025
Wednesday May 07, 2025
Ep. 135 Arts Data Redefined- The Conversation
This week the Pod Squad shares their thoughts on Josh’s conversation with Angela Meleca, Founder and Chief Advocate Officer of Meleca Creative Associates (https://www.melecacreative.com/). They share their thoughts on the Return on Arts concept and more. If you have not listened to that interview, please listen to Episode 134, first.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
Ep. 134 Angela Meleca: Arts Data Redefined
Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
Ep. 134 Angela Meleca: Arts Data Redefined
This week Josh shares his conversation with Angela Meleca, and our hosts opt to save their commentary until next week so our listeners can sit with this one a bit longer. Angela shares her journey to where she is now, spending more time on her true passion, the Return on Art (ROA). Angela also shares how she is leading a cohort to measure the social, emotional, and public value of the arts and their impact on well-being.
Angela Meleca is the Founder and Chief Advocate Officer of Meleca Creative Associates (https://www.melecacreative.com/). She is also the host of the ARTS Redefined podcast.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Ep. 133 What Keeps You Up?
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Ep. 133 What Keeps You Up?
This week Barron Ryan and Jacob Deaton join Katie, Josh, and Danielle to talk about the industry and what keeps them up at night. Don’t worry, it’s not all doom and gloom, what’s keeping these folks up are big ideas!
To learn more about our guests, you can listen to their full interviews:
Ep. 35 Jacob Deaton: Work Hard and Be Patient Ep. 60 Barron Ryan: The Evidence of Beauty
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Ep. 132 Michelle Grove Herzog: There Is Not a Linear Path
Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Ep. 132 Michelle Grove Herzog: There Is Not a Linear Path
This week Danielle sits down with Michelle Grove Herzog to talk about going from a musician (violin) to consultant and Director of the Arts Admin Program and the University of Arizona. She shares conversations about board management, fiscal sponsorships, grants and more. The Pod Squad talks about their interactions with grantmaking, boards, and more.
Michelle Grove Herzog is an independent non-profit consultant and the Director of the Arts Administration Program at the University of Arizona.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

There's No Business Like...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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