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Ep. 167 Ideas from MAX: Programming for the 25-45 Age Range
This week on Ideas from MAX we talk to Amanda Sauvie about the challenges of programming for the 25 to 45 demographic, both in them showing up and in finding the right talent to book.
Amanda Sauvie is the Manager of Community Programming at the FIM (https://thefim.org/) in Flint, Michigan.
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Ep. 166 Ideas from MAX: Programming Genres Back to Back
The next conversation in our Ideas from MAX series features Wallace Thomas’ hot take on a cappella music, which leads into a broader conversation on booking and programming strategy.
Wallace Thomas is a member of the a cappella group Ball in the House (https://www.ballinthehouse.com/)
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Ep. 165 Lisa Richards Toney – Part 2: To Be Still Is to Be Powerful This week, Josh shares part two of his conversation with Lisa Richards Toney. They discuss the power in stillness, organizational management, and the annual APAP conference.
Lisa Richards Toney is the President and CEO of the Association of Performing Arts Professionals – APAP (https://apap365.org/)
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Ep. 164 Lisa Richards Toney – Part 1: The Arts Taught Me ThatThis week Josh shares part one of his conversation with Lisa Richards Toney; to warm up for that conversation our hosts share some of their favorite APAP memories. Lisa Richards Toney shares the journey of how the arts impacted her life and moments that led her to being the head of APAP. She shares the challenges of leading a national organization through a global pandemic, the need for innovation and change, and more.
Lisa Richards Toney is the President and CEO of the Association of Performing Arts Professionals – APAP (https://apap365.org/)
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Ep. 163 Ideas from MAX: Audience Development vs. Community Engagement
Our Ideas from MAX series will feature conversations from our booth at the 2025 Midwest Arts Xpo and a roundtable discussion with the Pod Squad! This week we kick off with Gary Minyard’s answer to the questions “What are we not talking about enough in the industry?”: the differences between audience development and community engagement.
Gary Minyard is the Chief Creative Officer at Dayton Live in Dayton, OH (https://www.daytonlive.org/). Gary previously appeared on Episode 124 Of, By, and For Community.
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Ep. 162 Todd Wetzel: Fail Over and Over, Until You Fail Less
This week, our hosts start with a little game before Katie shares her conversation with Todd Wetzel. Todd is a fountain of knowledge and shares that knowledge with Katie, and our audience. Todd shares how he got his start in the arts, his philosophy on leadership, audience development, shifting presenting models, and so much more. Todd Wetzel is the Executive Director of Purdue Convocations at Purdue University (https://convocations.purdue.edu/).
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Ep. 161 Patrick Brogan: Lean In and Don’t Take It for Granted
Our hosts kick off this week talking about things they weren’t great at when they first started, and Bryan shares his conversation with Patrick Brogan. Patrick shares his role at ArtsQuest, an organization that grew from an 11-day music festival to a 10-acre arts and culture campus, the SteelStacks. Patrick shares his journey in the arts and his over 20 years with ArtsQuest, encouraging folks to take it in and enjoy it all.  Patrick Brogan is the Chief Programming Officer at ArtsQuest in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania (https://www.artsquest.org/).
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Ep. 160 Matt Smith: Fitness for the Body means Health for the Mind
This week the pod is bringing you something a little different. This week the pod goes fitness! Kevin shares his conversation with his personal trainer, Matt Smith, and talk about how health and wellness impacts your workflow. Matt also shares a beginner workout for use at home, in the gym, or on the road.
Matt Smith is a personal trainer, massage therapist, and yoga instructor in Galesburg, Illinois. (https://www.instagram.com/the.movement.journeyman/) Beginner workout routine: https://www.jefit.com/routines/1059035/at-home-strength
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