There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Episodes



Wednesday Jan 01, 2025
Ep. 116 NBL Rewind Josh Benson: Making Time
Wednesday Jan 01, 2025
Wednesday Jan 01, 2025
Ep. 116 NBL Rewind Josh Benson: Making Time
We’ve rewound alllll the way back to Josh’s interview from July 19, 2023 in our final episode of our holiday Rewind series. Danielle visits Josh and catches up on his latest developments, including painting some amazing murals in Marion and cutting back on his 27 gigs…by 1.
Join Danielle and Kevin as they sit down with fellow host, Josh Benson. Josh answers the hard-hitting questions like which one of the seven dwarves he identifies most with and what prank he wants to pull on his fellow host. Eventually, Josh shares the journey from theatre to autobody work and back to theatre, his change In leadership style, the impressive arts driven growth in Marion, IL, his family, and so much more. Some of his mural work can be found here: http://marionmurals.com/
Josh Benson is the Executive Director of the Marion Cultural and Civic Center (https://marionccc.com/) in Marion, Illinois. Josh is also a muralist, father, and 1/5 of the There’s No Business Like podcast team.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Thursday Dec 26, 2024
Ep. 115 NBL Rewind: Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections
Thursday Dec 26, 2024
Thursday Dec 26, 2024
Ep. 115 NBL Rewind: Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections
This week we rewind back to September 2023 and our chat with Pod Host Katie Trzaska-Miller! Danielle checks in with Katie and they catch up on her new business, aptly named Michigan Maven Creative Associates, taking our own advice, and the joy of getting back on stage.
Danielle and Kevin continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week we learn about our fellow host, Katie Trzaska-Miller. After a quick game of “How Pure Michigan is She?”, Katie shares her origin story starting as a dancer at a young age and eventually managing a historic theatre on her own at the age of 23. Katie also shares her passion for her community, connecting colleagues, educating and bringing up the next generation, and having tough conversations about equity.
Katie Trzaska-Miller is the founder of Michigan Maven Creative Associates (www.michiganmaven.art) an arts admin and consulting firm. Katie is also a mother, an active member of her community (both locally and in the arts community), and 1/5 of the There’s No Business Like podcast team.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Dec 18, 2024
Ep. 114 Holidays Holidays and Ask Us Anything
Wednesday Dec 18, 2024
Wednesday Dec 18, 2024
Ep. 114 Holidays Holidays and Ask Us Anything
This week the Podsquad gets together at Danielle’s house for another holiday party! The shenanigans are top notch as we take listener questions and talk about our favorite holiday traditions.
We wish you a safe and happy holiday season and thank you for continuing to join us week after week!
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Ep. 113 NBL Rewind: Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet Challenging
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Ep. 113 NBL Rewind: Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet Challenging
In this week’s rewind Katie lady-chats with Danielle and learns what she’s been up to lately, including facilitating a world premiere at the Alden and engaging the art of making memories on family vacations.
In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, this week Bryan and Katie sit down with Danielle, and finally put her in the hot seat! We learn about the journey that led her to arts administration, where her passion for DEIA comes from and why it’s important to her, how she programs entertainment and keeps it accessible, and so much more. Danielle also shares her love of the Pocahontas Project (https://www.pocahontasproject.org/) and the podcast Seeing White (https://sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/)
.
Danielle Van Hook is the Director of Youth Programs at The Alden Theatre in McLean, Virginia (https://mcleancenter.org/about/visit/the-alden-theatre/). Danielle is also a mother of twins, an ally, and 1/5 of the There’s No Business Like podcast team.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Dec 04, 2024
Ep. 112 NBL Rewind: Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your Silliness
Wednesday Dec 04, 2024
Wednesday Dec 04, 2024
Ep. 112 NBL Rewind: Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your SillinessThe rewinds continue as we get some big updates and news from Bryan!
In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week Katie and Josh sit down with Bryan. Bryan shares his journey from marketing director to arts admin, how his programming style has shifted as our ecosystem changes, the pitfalls of “quality” art, and his passion for collaboration in every aspect of his life. He also shows off his natural storytelling skills sharing vulnerable, heartwarming, and hilarious parts of his life.
Bryan Zellmer is the Executive Director of The Bardavon and Ulster Performing Arts Centers (https://www.bardavon.org/) and former Director of KU Presents! at Kutztown University (https://www.kutztown.edu/about-ku/administrative-offices/ku-presents.html) Bryan is also a father, a mentor, and 1/5 of the There’s No Business Like podcast team.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Nov 27, 2024
Ep. 111 NBL Rewind: Kevin Maynard: People Come First
Wednesday Nov 27, 2024
Wednesday Nov 27, 2024
Ep. 111 NBL Rewind: Kevin Maynard: People Come FirstWith so many life changes and new listeners, we thought the holidays would be a good time to revisit our Interpodsquad interviews and reintroduce ourselves! Danielle gets the fresh scoop and we re-enjoy Bryan and Josh’s interview with the incomparable Kevin Maynard.
We learn about Kevin’s surprising (but unsurprisingly wholesome) first foray into live performance, how his business and accounting background gave him a firm foundation as an arts leader, and Kevin’s philosophies around taking on challenges and supporting his staff. The Mystery of the Mustache is also revealed! And Danielle, per usual, continues to torture Kevin.Kevin L. Maynard is the Executive Director for Opening Nights at Florida State University (https://openingnights.fsu.edu/ ) and former Executive Director of Quad City Arts, splitting the border between Iowa and Illinois (www.quadcityarts.com). He is also an avid runner, community theater actor, lover of spreadsheets, and 1/5 of the There’s No Business Like podcast team.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Nov 20, 2024
Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is Change
Wednesday Nov 20, 2024
Wednesday Nov 20, 2024
Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is Change
This week the PodSquad dreams about what to do with a magical pot of money for extra programming, which leads to Katie’s conversation with friend and mentor Lenore Naxon. Lenore dives into nuances of board management, leading in the presenter consortium space, and how changes in the industry present challenges and opportunities. Lenore Naxon is the founder of Naxon Consulting (https://naxonconsulting.com/) and co-chair of the Presenters Leadership Consortium. She is also the pod’s Biggest Fan!
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).



Wednesday Nov 13, 2024
Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers
Wednesday Nov 13, 2024
Wednesday Nov 13, 2024
Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers
This week we bring you an unexpected interview from our time at the 2024 WAA Conference. Bryan has the honor and pleasure of sitting down with Phil Esparza of El Teatro Campesino, the legendary Chicano theater company. We discuss the company’s history and legacy, community engagement, and trace Phil’s career from college student to performer to collegiate presenter.
Phil Esparza is the Executive Producer of El Teatro Campesino (https://elteatrocampesino.com/). The company celebrates its 60th anniversary in 2025.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

There's No Business Like...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
For more info go to our full website at
or contact us at