Wednesday May 31, 2023
Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect You
There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
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Wednesday May 24, 2023
Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time
Bob Bennett, and his impressive beard, join Josh for a conversation about Jazz, Jazz St. Louis, and all of the options of being part of the industry outside of performance. Bob talks about how change and growth takes time, vision, and a good team. Our hosts share their spirit/drink of choice, so now you know what to get us when you see us at “the hang” at conferences! The team also discuss more important topics like the economics of the arts and the many opportunities outside of just performance.
Bob Bennet is the Artistic Director/Director of Operations for Jazz St. Louis (https://jazzstl.org/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 17, 2023
Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up
Katie sits down with Meena Malik to discuss genuine relationship building outside of programming, focusing on the importance of the relationship between arts funders and those they fund or want to fund, the importance of building a relationship when inviting someone to have meaningful and potentially traumatic conversations, and more. Our hosts talk about impactful moments in arts education, and some resources for tough conversations in the EDI space. Seeing White: https://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/
Harvard Kennedy School Library Racial Justice Reading List
Meena Malik (https://www.meenamalik.com/) is a musician, arts consultant, facilitator, and mediator, who is known as a mover and shaker re-defining what conversations around equity in the arts look like.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 10, 2023
Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do
Bryan chats with Anthony Wilkinson about his many paths into and around the performing arts. They talk about his hit show My Big Gay Italian Wedding, his start as a writer in soap operas, his public speaking, and his eventual journey to leading the Avenel Performing Arts Center. Our hosts discuss surprising audience successes, soap operas, and the need for open conversations around burnout and getting to proper staffing levels.
Anthony Wilkinson is the Executive and Artistic Director of the Avenel Performing Arts Center (https://avenelarts.com/). He is also a playwright, actor, director and public speaker.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday May 03, 2023
Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment
Wednesday May 03, 2023
Wednesday May 03, 2023
Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment
Today we hear about our "Quadproducers" first Broadway experiences. Then, Josh talks with Tracey Lawie about Booking Broadway, and the importance of representation in the arts. She discusses the rewarding parts of an art admin position, and how they are based in transformations.
Tracey Lawie is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/).
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Wednesday Apr 26, 2023
Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous
Wednesday Apr 26, 2023
Wednesday Apr 26, 2023
Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous
Episode 28 starts with our Quadhosts chatting about the weather and then into talking about the presence of our families in our spaces. Then Bryan sits down with comedic magician Jonathan Burns as they chat about how he got into magic, how some of his funniest bits came about, and his post pandemic view on family and work-life balance.
Information about Jonathan Burns, as well as his tour schedule can be found at www.iheartburns.com
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Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident
In this episode, the pod squad debates their preferred handheld chicken preferences and Josh has an engaging interview with Dan Mann! Dan shares his journey to becoming an agent, starting a label and publishing company, and now producing a TV Show.
Dan Mann is the Owner/Agent at Agency Etc (www.agency-etc.com) in Nashville.
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Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those Risks
Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those Risks
This week, our hosts take a moment to reflect on teachers who had an impact on their lives. Brian sits down with the energetic, fountain of knowledge, Mark Wilson. They touch on a number of topics, including a masterclass on connecting with your entire community.
Mark Wilson is the Executive Director of the Zoellner Arts Center at Lehigh University (https://zoellner.cas.lehigh.edu/home).
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Wednesday Apr 05, 2023
Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys
Wednesday Apr 05, 2023
Wednesday Apr 05, 2023
Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys
On this week's episode, our hosts talk about the impact and their love of people who are passionate about what they do. Josh and Danielle sit down with one of these individuals, Natalie Marerro. Natalie talks about becoming an Executive Director at 23, the impact of Viver Brasil, and the importance of “Ancestral Keys.“
Natalie Marrero is the Executive Director of Viver Brasil (https://www.viverbrasil.com/). She is passionate about place-making for communities through art practices and has dedicated her career to preserving culture.
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The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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