There’s No Business Like...
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Episodes
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Ep. 34 Leah Keith: Ask More Questions
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Ep. 34 Leah Keith: Ask More Questions
Bryan sits down with Leah Keith co founder, Creative Producer, and agent for Rhythm of The Arts Producing Agency. We learn of her background as a Flamenco Dancer and on into her roles as an agent and eventually starting a new agency. Bryan and Leah dive into the corporate and organizational structure of some large corporate agencies. Leah closes the interview with some fantastic advice for anyone getting into the industry or in leadership at all. Also, our quad hosts discuss their early leadership styles and whether they were successful or not.
Leah Keith is Cofounder, Creative Producer, and Agent at https://www.rhythmofthearts.com/
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect You
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect You
Adia Morris Swanger sits down with Kevin to talk about the business skills needed in the arts and what Springboard for the Arts is doing to help provide those skills. Adia also shares the journey that led her to having a multi-faceted career in the arts and how she manages it all. Our hosts share their onstage mishaps and talk about life with kids while working in the arts.
Adia Morris Swanger is the Program Manager, Professional Development at Springboard for the Arts (https://springboardforthearts.org/) leading the Work of Art Program (https://springboardforthearts.org/professional-growth/work-of-art-program/). Adia is also a freelance theatre artist, writer, educator, and mother.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time
Bob Bennett, and his impressive beard, join Josh for a conversation about Jazz, Jazz St. Louis, and all of the options of being part of the industry outside of performance. Bob talks about how change and growth takes time, vision, and a good team. Our hosts share their spirit/drink of choice, so now you know what to get us when you see us at “the hang” at conferences! The team also discuss more important topics like the economics of the arts and the many opportunities outside of just performance.
Bob Bennet is the Artistic Director/Director of Operations for Jazz St. Louis (https://jazzstl.org/).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up
Katie sits down with Meena Malik to discuss genuine relationship building outside of programming, focusing on the importance of the relationship between arts funders and those they fund or want to fund, the importance of building a relationship when inviting someone to have meaningful and potentially traumatic conversations, and more. Our hosts talk about impactful moments in arts education, and some resources for tough conversations in the EDI space. Seeing White: https://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/
Harvard Kennedy School Library Racial Justice Reading List
Meena Malik (https://www.meenamalik.com/) is a musician, arts consultant, facilitator, and mediator, who is known as a mover and shaker re-defining what conversations around equity in the arts look like.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do
Bryan chats with Anthony Wilkinson about his many paths into and around the performing arts. They talk about his hit show My Big Gay Italian Wedding, his start as a writer in soap operas, his public speaking, and his eventual journey to leading the Avenel Performing Arts Center. Our hosts discuss surprising audience successes, soap operas, and the need for open conversations around burnout and getting to proper staffing levels.
Anthony Wilkinson is the Executive and Artistic Director of the Avenel Performing Arts Center (https://avenelarts.com/). He is also a playwright, actor, director and public speaker.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
Wednesday May 03, 2023
Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment
Wednesday May 03, 2023
Wednesday May 03, 2023
Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment
Today we hear about our "Quadproducers" first Broadway experiences. Then, Josh talks with Tracey Lawie about Booking Broadway, and the importance of representation in the arts. She discusses the rewarding parts of an art admin position, and how they are based in transformations.
Tracey Lawie is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/).
Americans for the Arts- Arts and Economic Prosperity - Americans For The Arts Economic Study
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Wednesday Apr 26, 2023
Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous
Wednesday Apr 26, 2023
Wednesday Apr 26, 2023
Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous
Episode 28 starts with our Quadhosts chatting about the weather and then into talking about the presence of our families in our spaces. Then Bryan sits down with comedic magician Jonathan Burns as they chat about how he got into magic, how some of his funniest bits came about, and his post pandemic view on family and work-life balance.
Information about Jonathan Burns, as well as his tour schedule can be found at www.iheartburns.com
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Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident
In this episode, the pod squad debates their preferred handheld chicken preferences and Josh has an engaging interview with Dan Mann! Dan shares his journey to becoming an agent, starting a label and publishing company, and now producing a TV Show.
Dan Mann is the Owner/Agent at Agency Etc (www.agency-etc.com) in Nashville.
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There's No Business Like...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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