There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Episodes
Episodes



Wednesday Mar 25, 2026
Ep. 181 – Opera, Ballet, and Their Public Perception
Wednesday Mar 25, 2026
Wednesday Mar 25, 2026
Ep. 181 – Opera, Ballet, and Public Perception
This week our hosts dive into the discussion around the comments of Timothee Chalamet. They question the relevance of some of the traditional arts like opera and ballet to the overall general public. They further question in what ways those classic art forms can gain more relevance to the general populous.
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Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
NBL Rewind: David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation
Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
Wednesday Mar 18, 2026
NBL Rewind: David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation
As colleges and universities are on Spring Break, we are taking a Spring Break of our own and rewinding to episode 72, highlighting a (now former) university presenter and his students.
Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career, opening performance venues, and teaching the future of the industry. He is joined by two of his students, Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller, who share their unique view of the industry and an inside look at the program at Dean College.
At the time of this recording, David Rowell was the Associate Professor and Program Coordinator of Arts and Entertainment Management at Dean College in Franklin, Massachusetts (https://www.dean.edu/academics/majors-degrees/arts-and-entertainment-management/). Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller were students in the Arts and Entertainment Management Program.
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Wednesday Mar 11, 2026
Ep. 179 Are the Arts a Luxury?
Wednesday Mar 11, 2026
Wednesday Mar 11, 2026
Ep. 179 Are the Arts a Luxury?
As the State of Michigan considers a 6% luxury tax, which includes the performing arts, Josh, Kevin, and Pure Michigan Katie Trzaska-Miller, consider the impact and ask, have the arts become a luxury?Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Mar 04, 2026
Ep. 178 Project Convergence: The Rhythm of Collaboration
Wednesday Mar 04, 2026
Wednesday Mar 04, 2026
Ep. 178 Project Convergence: The Rhythm of Collaboration
Katie sits down with Vikas Arun and Apoorva Natarajan, co-directors of the American dance company Project Convergence, home to the union of Bharatanatyam and American tap dance. A chance conversation at the Midwest Arts XPO led to this discussion about the state of dance in the presenting field, marketing for artists, and the challenges of conferencing and showcasing for artists.
Vikas Arun and Apoorva Natarajan and the co-directors of Project Convergence, an American dance company with touring companies located in New York City and Seattle (https://www.projectconvergence.org/).Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod
Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Feb 25, 2026
Ep. 177 Under the Radar Festival: The Edgy Side of Theater
Wednesday Feb 25, 2026
Wednesday Feb 25, 2026
Ep. 177 Under the Radar Festival: The Edgy Side of Theater
Josh and Kevin sit down to discuss their experience with the Under the Radar Festival in NYC. They share what the festival is, what they did, and more. They also talk about a show outside of the festival, GREEF, a one-woman clown show. GREEF is a show by Christina Gelsone. Link to a post about the show: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DATAzngiF/
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Wednesday Feb 18, 2026
Ep. 176 Willem Van Der Maij: Making Solo Show Production Easier
Wednesday Feb 18, 2026
Wednesday Feb 18, 2026
Ep. 176 Willem Van Der Maij: Making Solo Show Production Easier
Today Bryan sits down with Willem Van Der Maij; the Founder, inventor, and managing director of Midian, a company that produces the Midian Prime – a wireless remote multi function midi control device. Hear how this device makes live performance easier for solo gig artists.
Learn more at https://www.midian.live
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Ep. 175 Hot Headlines: Trump-Kennedy Center Closing?
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Wednesday Feb 11, 2026
Ep. 175 Hot Headlines: Trump-Kennedy Center Closing?
Katie, Josh, and Kevin talk about the President posting about closing the Trump-Kennedy Center for two years for “renovations,” and funding of the NEA, among other topics, because you can’t talk about a Presidential social media post without diving into the state of America.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.



Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
Ep. 174 APAP Recap 2026
Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
Wednesday Feb 04, 2026
Ep. 174 APAP Recap 2026
The Pod Squad takes NYC in this episode where they met up while attending the APAP 2026 Conference. Conferences are a big undertaking for organizations and attendees alike and this is what the group thought about this years largest global gathering of arts professionals. We discuss things we loved, the things we didn’t, dead cell phones, and more. Shout out to the presenters, conference committee and board members, and staff that work hard to bring us all together.We mention the TYA Tour Development Collective in the episode; you can find out more at https://www.tyatourdevelopment.org/.
Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

There's No Business Like...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional theatrical touring industry!
The "Quad" Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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